When it comes to taking on projects, I tend to focus on what is either going to give me a good grade or on what is pazing the bills. The217 does neither of these, but I really do enjoy blogging. The only issue is that it’s a lot easier to write sporadic thoughts than it is to write the things I have done heavier research on. What I’m getting at is, I’m finally taking the time to write about those fucking frat boys.
Many moons ago I conducted interviews with several frat bros here at U of I. Some of them currently go to school here and some are alumni. Today, my friends, is the day where you can start hearing their stories. Names of both people and of frats will remain anonymous.
Without any further adieu:
Gay Frat Boys and the Tongue that Loves Them: Ron
Our story starts with Ron, a cute guy who I met up with at Legends over a beer. Well, I was only 20 at the time, so I just had a Pepsi (gross I know) but the sentiment was there.
Ron is currently a grad student here at U of I and completed his undergrad here, too. During his undergrad he was a member of, as he put it, “one of the top 6 frats here on campus.” Against labels, he could see himself being with a guy or a girl. Though he considers himself out of the closet, he is not out to his family or some of his best friends, saying that such an announcement would be inappropriate.
We talked quite a bit about his experience as an undergrad. Ron was no stranger to cliché hookups. Ron got trashed at a barn dance and went back to the frat house with a buddy. Ron passed out in his bed and woke up to his friend feeling him up. Ron decided to just roll with it and started to experience what he referred to as closet “bedding.” He never had a relationship with anyone during his undergrad, but he did have 2 regulars who were good for 2 AM drunk dials. Once he got caught hooking up with a guy in an academic building, which just made the experience hotter. But, being gay in a frat isn’t all about fucking (who would have thought?).
When asked why he didn’t come out during his undergrad, he replied that a lot of it dealt with indifference mixed with insecurity. Not only that, but his major left him constantly busy and there wasn’t really time to worry about whether or not he should be out. A final factor was that coming out as bisexual (or whatever you wish to call it) could potentially limit the amount of action he would get from girls. Guys tend to love the idea of dating a girl who has gotten with another chick, but unfortunately the sentiment isn’t often returned when it comes to guys messing around with other guys. He had been in relationships with women before and he did not want them to think that their relationships were lies. He was very adamant about expressing how much he did care about these girls and that by no means were they just a tool for hiding his sexuality.
When it comes to pledging a frat, Ron insisted that you be in the closet while doing so, otherwise you’ll be bonged. Bonging, for those of you not up on your frat boy lexicon, means that you’ll be kicked out of the pledge race. Ron says that pledging was both the best and worst part of his life, “an emotional rollercoaster where I would at one point be dying laughing and the next minute I’m fearing for my life.” Hazing is simply ritualistic with fraternities, much like in sports or the military.
When asked what happens if you come out after getting into a frat, Ron said, “After being initiated, a frat cannot really deactivate you, but you’re an idiot if you think nothing changes. Your frat may vary. Some guys are accepted whole-heartedly and others are simply alienated. Naiveté says it is physically safe to be out. In my experience there weren’t any physical bad happenings. Alienation was the most common form of homophobia.”
I asked Ron about other forms of homophobia within a frat, and he said that words like “faggot” or terms like “that’s so gay” are extremely prevalent. Once he witnessed guys throwing bricks at a frat house and shouting “faggots!” but these guys weren’t even in a frat themselves.
When it comes to dancing with guys, Ron says that you can definitely do that anywhere, including at a frat party, but you better be able to deal with the judgment. “There was never a single instance where I felt defenseless.”
One thing I have personally witnessed when it comes to dating guys who are heavy into sports or are in frats is that they act differently with their straight friends than they do with their gay friends, so I asked Ron if he noticed any of these characteristics in himself.
“I don’t necessarily act differently with gay guys and girls than straight guys, but I’m guilty of sometimes playing it up with gay guys, usually just for the sake of the joke. I need to be able to keep up with gay guys.”
He still hangs out with the same friends now as he did before he was out, but admittedly has been to C St. a bit more often.
“I’m too into this campus to be limited to one niche. I was an RA, a TA, in a frat, in a choir, the president of an RSO. I can be friends with just about anyone and am able to always find something in common. It’s called having people skills.”
One thing Ron wanted me to make sure I got across was that homosexuality is not a taboo topic and that frat guys are indeed able to hold discussions about things other than just Keystone. Homosexuality as a topic is not taboo, and politics are talked about to death. Being in a frat is about building brother-like friendships, and whether or not you will be accepted depends on your own level of confidence and your ability to form friendships, “If you feel you’re surrounded by people who aren’t going to accept you, pledge a different frat.”
When it comes to being gay in a frat, “I’m for it. Be an example that it’s possible. But you really have to have the people skills.”
One of the last things we talked about over our beer and Pepsi (fucking disgusting, I know) was what advice he would offer to a gay guy who is in the closet and in a frat.
“Come out whenever you want to. Don’t feel pressured to come out. If your friends do care in a negative way, they were never your friends in the first place. Friendships are not and should not be conditional to you. Coming out doesn’t have to be a big announcement. You can come out with your own subtleties. Also, ask yourself if being yourself is more or less important than what people think of you. You’ll live a miserable life if you care about the latter. But, it really was exciting and hot being in the closet for a while. It’s so hot that no one else could know it was going on.”
Now, it’s important to note that Ron is one of many different gay guys out there on campus. These are only the opinions and experiences of one guy. I’ll be posting more interviews over the next few days (don’t worry, they’re already written and you won’t have to wait 6 months to read them) and each guy is different from the last. Though Ron was ultimately able to be himself, it’s not the case with every guy in a frat who messes around with other guys.
More to come in the next few days.




